Just a quick thought on excommunication. I will begin by adding in some quotes from past LDS leaders and prophets to help drive home these fundamental points. Imagine my shock, after waiting for your answers for a year and a half, to get a phone call from you instead telling me you wanted me to come in to responses to FairMormon. Ivins owed Runnells the courtesy and decency to give him March 15th due to his family situation. The church called the police on the vigil attendees. Mark Hofmann Salamander Letter; David Whitmer's Second Seer Stone . This is the family member referred to above as being in hospice. In response to and protest of Mark Ivins' inhumane ASL interpreter ban (See April 7th Disciplinary Council letter), CES Letter Foundation released the following: When Jeremy Runnells was 14, a General Authority blessed and promised him that his hearing would be naturally restored. Thank you for the clarification on your intention to cancel our March 15th meeting and to communicate via writing. CES Letter has been downloaded an estimated 600,000 times to date, and over 12,000 LDS Church members have reached out to Runnells after reading the CES Letter. He was made General Authority in 2008meaning he had to give up his practice as a lawyer and serve the church full timeand spent time in New Zealand before returning to the church's Utah headquarters in 2014. So the church doesn't believe in free agency. June 23, 2014 -- Mormon women's rights activist Kate Kelly was excommunicated by the church Monday. - Elder Hugh B. publicly correct any mistakes and errors in the CES Letter and website.". Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. essay. Make the church admit that this is a central issue. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed." modern Egyptologists. Another acquaintance was ex'd for a single adulterous affair 10 years previous to being called to be elders quorum president. The LDS church announced that Elder James Hamula had been released from his role in the church's leadership "following church disciplinary action." Your well-meaning Mother is correct your sister can be excommunicated, its not definite and may not happen until she wants to come back to church, at that point as she isn't endowed or married But it is amatter that will be decided by priesthood authority. Actually, it is the slang for a 6 cylinder car, namely a 1968 Triumph TR250. Legal Fund. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. unofficial Mormon apologists who attacked me. I asked you these questions a year and a half ago in the fall of 2014. The church released its very disturbing and problematic Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo essay At the time I was presented with a choice: Allow FairMormon to continue to unfairly and dishonestly publicly tarnish my name, integrity and character I handed my resignation letter to President Ivins just a few minutes ago. Yesterday's historians and members with questions have been disciplined and excommunicated on accusations that they were "acting in opposition to the I am morally clean, honest with my fellow men and I have a scheduling a meeting between us. This directly contradicts the Book of Mormon itself: "Neither the rules nor the translations in the grammar book correspond to those recognized by Egyptologists todayScholars have identified the papyrus I have excommunicated the LDS Church, President Ivins, and their kangaroo court from my life. Your words above ring extremely hollow in light of your consistent refusal to answer legitimate and reasonable questions. Church's own foundational truth claims. Firestorm ensues, Ivins reverses interpreter ban after Runnells fights for one. began as a letter Mr. Runnells wrote to an LDS religious instructor (CES Director) outlining his questions, concerns, and doubts about LDS Church Ivins confirmed that he had and responded that March 15, 2016 would not work as he "can't wait that long. The following is a scanned copy of the certified letter that I received from Ivins a few days later. This is not and never has been my intention. This ignited a firestorm online and in social media. After reviewing your website and your statements, there are Runnells sends Ivins one last letter in response to his latest disciplinary council letter seeking answers to his questions, Runnells also responds to several of Ivins' accussations against him, Ivins banned ASL interpreter in disciplinary council, Runnells shares ban with social media. Escrito en 27 febrero, 2023. . B). an organization withholds, obstructs, inhibits, and censors information - positive or negative - from its members. If there is anything we can do to questions were significant and the church would best serve its members by providing answers. Total It has been replaced by an Orwellian system that values unquestioning [12], The CES Letter, along with a book published by Egyptologist Robert K. Ritner and the reactions generated by apologists were influential in the 2014 release by the LDS Church of an essay addressing historical difficulties in the Book of Abraham. on Marth 15th. to "talk about my membership in the church". After scheduling the meeting with Stake President Mark Ivins' secretary, Jeremy Runnells voluntarily meets President Ivins for the very first time in I followed the counsel of my leaders and my patriarchal blessing to search for truth wherever it may be found. I have done nothing wrong. I hereby withdraw my consent to I did it their way only to find lots of icing but no cake. She dares to say out loud what thousands of other people are only thinking to themselves hence the stake presidents admonition that she is strident, public and negative. (The excommunication letter also notes that she has used disparaging and vulgar language to state those opinions, and if we know anything, its that Mormon ladies must be nice and never, ever demean themselves and others with All. Handbook of Instruction 6.7.3, before holding any disciplinary action against me. Runnells stated that he would be happy to meet with Ivins on March 15, 2016. Here is a sister - of ours (ALL members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; hereafter "the Church) who has not maintained a close relationship with her leaders or community recently and seems perplexed that "people who do not even know me" are calling her to account with her (perceived) "contrary to the doctrines of the Church" pronouncements. attempt to get answers to their doubts and concerns only to find more questions and issues than they had to begin with. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. What Jeremy did was so remarkable because it solved this dilemma in a way that reclaimed his own power over his own life. Now, he faces excommunication. ", "Author Jeremy Runnells Resigns From LDS Church At Excommunication Hearing In American Fork", "Jeremy Runnells and His Letter to a CES Director", "Inside the Secret Facebook War For Mormon Hearts and Minds", "The Trials of YouTube Jesus: A Mormon Apostate Fighting for His Family", "Author of 'Letter to a CES Director' resigns from Mormon church", "Author of 'Letter to a CES Director' out of LDS Church after disciplinary council", "Jana Riess: This is your brain on Mormon Facebook", "Understanding Mormon Disbelief: Why do some Mormons lose their testimony, and what happens to them when they do? He was either a Prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and I will then forward your statement to the First Presidency. What questions am I being punished for asking? I look forward to your response and hope that your hearing situation is not permanent and that you will soon be able to function without any confirmed to me in a very real and personal way that I no longer want to be associated with this organization in any way. addition to clarifying how your demands are reasonable and congruent to the foundational principles of free agency, transparency, honesty and freedom? Notice that this letter has a different font and is more thorough/professional than the Valentine's Day disciplinary letter. No one has to take Jeremy's word on anything. I accept and embrace the theme from the quotes above. In some cases he may say that he wants them to partake of the sacrament, give a prayer, etc. with Church doctrine, updating and translating those concerns into different languages, etc. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. attempted to mislead the people, then he should be exposed; his claims should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false" - President Joseph Fielding Smith, "That is the way I feel about it. In 1841 the Mormons published a poem which stated "Or Book of Mormon not his word, because denied by Oliver". 20 times. Additionally, I needed a centralized authorized place for people to non-transparency. The artist, Ryan Ottley, also released a statement saying, "My entire family are members, as are many of my friends, and I would never include anything mean-spirited about them or their beliefs. It is up to the discretion of the presiding authority. This never happened. Something I've always wondered. It has nothing to do with the character, the story or Marvel. LDS Church Postpones Court of Love Against Jeremy Runnells: I received an email this morning from my Stake President, Mark Ivins, indicating that the disciplinary council has been postponed until March 2016 - it the Church. Temple. Clear editor. I trust that you will be honorable and questions to higher levels of authority so that authoritative answers could be provided. (Toto, Helfer isnt in Kansas anymore. If you resign, then you reclaim power over your life but the reality of the close-knit culture of Mormonism and the result of years of leaders reinforcing the idea that apostates are immoral and under Satans influence means that the Church still gets the parting shot of controlling the narrative of your exit. This was the catalyst and beginning of the CES Letter This is still my position and offer today. I am resigning because of the way the church treats me and other members who have sincere questions, concerns, and doubts. I have asked you 3 questions over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. As a direct result of FairMormon's personal attacks and dishonest claims, I found it necessary to create my current website to host my direct rebuttals and Location 253, 6302 of 8366, Anonymous Author(s) "Response to "Letter to a CES Director: Why I Lost My Testimony (CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts) and 'Debunking FAIR's Debunking'(Debunking FairMormon)" 20 September 2019, Larry D. Curtis "Survey: Commitment of LDS Church members chilled by high-profile excommunications" KUTV 2, November 30th 2018, Last edited on 25 February 2023, at 12:50, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Joseph Smith's marriages to already-married women, "In this new era of doubt, will a stronger Mormon faith emerge? distributing your materials about the Church to others" is to censor sincere questions as well as hard facts and truths (and its open discussion in the In the event that a disciplinary council is ever convened on your behalf, you will be given Although they had all signed non-disclosure agreements beforehand, a man who was guarding the door said they hadnt complied with the agreements and were not going to be allowed into the building. church" simply by publishing and discussing the very same information and facts verified today publicly by the church's own essays. Your link has been automatically embedded. Regardless, Runnells told Ivins that he has a family member in hospice, that now was not a good time for him, and that March 15th was the date The room with the high council and stake presidency already inside was locked and Ivins had to tap to get the door opened. To be clear, Jeremy Runnells voluntarily resigned his membership from the LDS Church. The 2nd question I asked you is: If there are no errors or mistakes, why am I being punished for seeking and sharing the truth? Many times PH leaders will not push the issue at first so that the person can come in and confess on their own (broken heart and contrite spirit) and allow the atonement to being to work on them. I excommunicate the church from my life That statement is so potent because it asserts real authority. No more, Elder Ballard said, no matter how sticky the issue "To name a few such topics that are less known or controversial, I'm talking about polygamy. defend myself vigorously. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints excommunicated a prominent sex therapist on Wednesday, citing her criticism of the church and its leaders on social media. In a normal month they usually process 500-1000 over the course of that entire period. There is no true free agency when The letter also includes the statement "This council will consider your recent actions against the church as apostasy." rebuttals and defenses against their attacks on my personal name and integrity as well as their false claims. However, because you're "not a historian," you were going I think you should make them have no excuse that this is a local issue. All of these ideals and principles deeply and profoundly resonated with via email. truth, most of which truths are now verifiable today through the Church's new essays. Cody and Leah Young were excommunicated from the LDS Church last week. questions that I asked them. I do so look forward to reviewing my answers to your just means you may spend a lot of time in court working out visitation, no actual marriage or divorce has to take place. You are attempting to spiritually If the sin is so serious that it requires excommunication, the individual will continue attending church, praying, and working toward a time when they can be re-baptized. Richard Lyman, who held the rank of apostle in the church, was excommunicated in 1943. cancelled disciplinary councils against me. situation with a family member in hospice care. People of all faiths and perspectives are welcome to engage in civil, respectful discussion about topics related to Mormonism. the two of us. I am willing to communicate with you directly, in writing, unfiltered. Truth in Church History. freedom of the individual and free agency as one of its most cherished principles. he could come in to meet with Ivins. half. i thought every state had their own rules as to what constituted a common law marriage, if they awknowledged them at all. There is no middle ground. seen as nothing short of Orwellian. If a Bishop recommends disfellowship does it have to then go to a Bishop's court? If you would like to meet before March 15th, please let me know and I will adjust my schedule See PDF of Runnells' attorney's letter.]. his dozens of polygamous marriages in the dark. For your convenience, I am copying/pasting from In its decision, the all-male panel wrote that Kelly had "persisted in an aggressive effort to persuade other Church members to your point of view," and that her "course of action has threatened to erode the faith of others." If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed." questions and concerns to him in writing as part of his effort to potentially resolve my questions and concerns with the Church's origins and history. Again, it is not my goal nor is it the goal of the CES Letter Foundation to drive members out of the church. - "Today, the Church disavows the theories advanced in the past that black skin is a sign of divine disfavor or curse" - Race and the Priesthood essay. You are the owner of your life and your identity. It was cold. [10] Runnells posted an extensive rebuttal to FairMormon's response. with dignity and therefore my resignation is effective immediately and unconditionally. thousands of questioning current and former LDS Church members. In February 2012, Jeremy experienced an awakening to the LDS Church's truth crisis, which subsequently led to a faith transition that summer. allegiance from the beginning has been to truth, accuracy and transparency. Yes family and friends have abandoned me. Or is this something the Bishop can do on his own? The easiest way to be excommunicated from the LDS religion is to have a liberal interpretation of LDS doctrine. The CES Director read the letter and promised a response to Runnells' questions and concerns. What errors or mistakes in the CES Letter, or on the website, is incorrect so I can publicly correct it? I am resigning because I refuse to submit myself to a dishonest Orwellian kangaroo court filled with men who value obedience and conformity over morality Explore your doubts. An Eagle Scout, Returned Missionary, BYU alumnus, Jeremy was married in the San Diego Temple with expectations and plans of living Mormonism for the rest of his life. I'm gonna go in tonight with my head held high, morally clean, and with a clear conscience that I have done nothing wrong. Runnells held a Press Conference on February 10, 2016 to publicly discuss his Stake President's actions. agreement by pushing to excommunicate me for reasons I did not know or understand. I have approached other Church leaders for official answers. There is no middle ground. The following is the November 2, 2014 letter Runnells handed to Ivins in the beginning of this meeting (can be read in PDF here) or read below: I am writing this letter to you to make sure that there are no misunderstandings or confusion regarding my response to several of your questions that you On October 19th when I told you these facts, I was speaking in direct opposition against Joseph Smith and his character. Brown. To censor and to obstruct is to limit and to steal the freedom and free agency of I read booksa lot of the approved books. The church did not provide any further explanation for Hamula's excommunication but did discount apostasy and disillusionment as reasons for his ouster. In September of 1993 six members of the LDS church were excommunicated for speaking out or publishing scholarly works that conflicted with the correlated history or threatened the church leadership in some way. (Doctrine and Covenants 5:32)," KnoWhy 606 (June 1, 2021). 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Truth stands boldly and unafraid; it is not shaken by testing or investigation. Address Runnells responded to Ivins' April 7, 2016 Disciplinary Court letter with the following 2:22am email (screenshot). temple blessings." Yet, that didn't stop him from attempting to spiritually execute me. Both creative science and revealed religion find their fullest and truest expression in the climate of freedom." The CES Letter outlines a large list of issues Runnells has with LDS Church beliefs and its historical narrative. In the end, President, I know that you will do what you feel is appropriate. Fortunately, the Church has made inroads toward more transparency since then by publishing its new LDS Church members have reached out to Runnells after reading the CES Letter. questions with you as well as hearing your answers to my questions. There will still be work to be done in clearing out the cobwebs of control from your mind but that theme is the most empowering one upon which to do so. Do what is right and the consequence is excommunication. "After carefully and prayerfully considering this matter," the letter states, "it was the decision of the council to withdraw your church membership in response to conduct contrary to the law and. In other developments in the Chad and Lori Daybell case, it seems that Chad Daybell has been ex-communicated from the LDS Church. Of the Book of Abraham. me. You can do this as an advocate and stand with your fellow members in searching for truth or you can stand over them in judgment. Pasted as rich text. Runnells did not hear back again from President Ivins until January 25, 2016 when Ivins telephoned Runnells to inform him of his intention to your website and other materials you have posted concerning the Church on the internet, are unwilling to stop trying to raise money for your endeavors Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. [Attached to the resignation letter that Runnells physically handed to Mark Ivins was also a letter from Runnells' attorney, Mark Naugle. After sending my letter to the CES Director I never received a response back from him to my questions and concerns, nor did he ever follow through with murder and place me in the same category as murderers, rapists, wife beaters, and child molesters through the archaic, barbaric, and un-Christlike use of This is my summary of the heartbreaking saga with my commentary on how it relates to the LDS faith crisis issues I write about frequently. 11. But according to Spangler, thats apparently what this stake president did, communicating to the witnesses left outside in the parking lot that there would be one hour allotted and no more. It is Runnells' position that the only reason why there was an interpreter there at all is because he fought hard for one - not because Ivins cared about Runnells or his ability to understand the meeting. Here is Fox 13's coverage of Jeremy Runnells and the press conference: LDS author says he faces excommunication after writing 'Letter to a CES Director'. After four years of research into Joseph Understand that good, sincere members who value truth will study church history from many sources - the Rather than a literal translation, the church is now selling a contradictory and bizarre "Catalyst Theory," which states that the excommunicated. If a disciplinary council were held for my asking questions, pursuing truth and defending my name, the church would show that it was speaking out of both The following is the PDF letter Runnells attached to email to Ivins: I'm still waiting for your answers to my CES Letter questions. During these discussions Runnells sought answers for - President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, "I think in the past there was a tendency to keep a lot of the records closed or at least not give access to information. If it did not, then this whether or not they want to commit their hearts, minds, time, talents, income, and lives to Mormonism.". Lee claimed that he was thrown out due to an argument about the role of Native Americans in the church, but in 1994, he was convicted of attempted sexual abuse of a child, which reportedly took place in 1989. President Ivins has never given me any mistakes to correct as required by Church Handbook for disciplinary actions. as grounds to justify holding a disciplinary council against me: I will now respond to each one of your above accusations: I have already responded to and rebutted this accusation in my March 6, 2016 letter to you. In fact, I recall asking you to give me the definition of "apostasy" from the Handbook after you accused me of it. A tragedy for the children short term, but Sam's courage and sacrifice has drawn more attention than the church will ever be able to repel through threats and bullying of activists and concerned members. In fact, a letter has to go out for any court, as far as I remember. She has been living in Utah for over a year.). Yet on October 22nd? Among the more interesting items in the collection is a lecture she gave in 1970 titled "Can We Manipulate the Past?" doctrine.". My Fox 13 did a piece on Runnells and the event: Runnells hilariously gets job proposal from LDS Church. I expect this matter to be handled with respect. never a remote thought of holding a "surprise" disciplinary council on March 15th. - D. Michael Quinn, former assistant to LDS Church Historian Leonard Arrington, "There must be no forbidden questions in Mormonism." [4], The CES Letter outlines a large list of issues Runnells has with LDS Church beliefs and its historical narrative. We had a gentleman's agreement over the phone when you called to meet on March 15th and you have now backed from your word by holding a disciplinary the Brethren are very concerned about" and he promised that he would provide a response. What errors and mistakes are there in the CES Letter or on my website that I can publicly correct? For many, many members of the church, including myself, "doubt your doubts" or "pray about it" or "give Brother Joseph a break" or "lean on my testimony" It just feels multiple first vision accounts). Instead of punishing me and hoping I'll go away with my questions, why won't you just answer them? Can you answer my questions in CES Letter as promised by your CES Director? actions in a premortal life;" - Race and the Priesthood. My offer still stands to To the best of my knowledge, everything posted in the CES Letter and on my website is completely accurate and solidly based in Church history. Since you are not in the U.S., you need to ascertain that information about your country. Below that lies the seven-man Presidency of the Seventy, which presides over the General Authority Seventies, who are referred to collectively as the Brethren and have church-wide jurisdiction. A decision has been made. - Elder Steven E. Snow, Current Church Historian, loved ones on a day set aside for commemorating love. In response, Jeremy wrote what later became publicly known as the CES Letter (originally titled Letter to a CES Director). As for translations, I have spent exactly $0 on translations. My well-meaning mother has told my 19yr old sister that if she moves in with her boyfriend that she is a candidate for excommunication. transparency. In the event, if any, that a third disciplinary council is set up against me, I will be sure to let everyone know. The following communications took place between October 19, 2014 to April 17, 2016. In fact, I credit FairMormon for helping to make The term also provides us an apt visual for what went down on Sunday evening, when the witnesses for Natashas defense werent even allowed into the church building. 7:15pm at the Stake Center. I believe President Joseph Fielding Smith when he wrote: "Mormonism, as it is called, must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. Again, it is not me or the CES Letter itself that causes people to leave, if they do, but rather the facts and information verified by the church's own Runnells with answers as he had pledged to Runnells in their November 2, 2014 meeting. Generally, excommunication occurs when someone commits a serious sin and goes to a local church leader for counsel and encouragement in repenting of their sin. The real question here is if the church really believes in and is confident in its foundational truth claims to welcome hard investigation and scrutiny. The Church's own essays (https://www.lds.org/topics/essays?lang=eng) discredit many of the Which means that they, too, take their place on the spectrum of excommunication, outside the body of the members their alienation less formal and official, but no less real. delays. 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